Canny AI
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Changes in Recovery during the day and random number in Trends summary
Radim J
Hi,
I'm facing some strange changes in your app during the day and random numbers in the Trends summary for Recovery ...
If it's interesting for you ... pls see in attached photos ... or summary
Date / Recovery during the day // Number in "Trends" summary
6.6. 41 / 62 / 81 // 55
7.6. 49 / 53 / 39 //37
8.6. 67 / 48 // 64
9.6. 75 // 72
10.6. 83 / 69 // 69
11.6. 45 / 85 // 85
12.6. 61 //49
13.6. 70 // 85
15.6. 50 / 67 // 63
16.6. 57 / 37 //41
17.6. 41 / 63 //63
I can send you all photos separately if needed ...
regards
RJ
Canny AI
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Change of recovery and hrv within minutes during the day?
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Barbara Seiberl-Stark
Hi! Should recovery and hrv really change during the day? And where is that HRV of 24ms coming from???? (Last 2 screenshots)
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Barbara Seiberl-Stark
Thank you for the explanation! Would you please have a second look at my screensots? I am still wondering, where the „24ms“ value comes from. I can not find this value in my Apple Watch recordings?
Grey
Barbara Seiberl-Stark: By default, Bevel calculates HRV using the RMSSD method. Apple uses SDNN, so the values will be different.
If you want to use SDNN and see the numbers match, go to Settings > Customization > Calculations and change the HRV Method to Apple Health.
That said, I don't recommend using SDNN as RMSSD is generally considered a better method to estimate Recovery. Hope that makes sense. I'll close this out for now, but let me know if you have any questions.
Grey
Hi Barbara Seiberl-Stark, it should not change during the day. Can you share the following screenshot?
Bevel Settings > Customization > Calculations
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Barbara Seiberl-Stark
Grey, it’s the first screenshot, I have added….
Grey
Barbara Seiberl-Stark: Ah I see, sorry for missing that.
Ok looking at your screenshots, it makes sense that it would change throughout the day. This is because you have Use HRV From set to "Sleep + Mindfulness".
Essentially this will pull in all samples during your sleep and mindfulness, so as you perform mindfulness sessions there will be new data.
If you don't want data to change, I recommend using "Entire sleep" only.
Randell
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Randell
Hi Mark, Let me try and help you with this.
Can you please send a screenshot of what your Recovery Trends look like on those 3 particular days where you are missing the said data?
Recovery -> Scroll down to trends and screenshot the view
Also, Have you tried clearing cache and reload data and see if it fixes the issue?
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Mark
Randell Hi Randell, I forgot I should have tried clearing the cache! Just cleared it and the data is loaded correctly!
Randell
Mark: Great. Let me close this ticket now, Thanks for the update!
Radim J
What are you using to track your Sleep/Recovery? Could you let me know if you're only using your AW?
-yes, AW only
Did you change your HRV calculation method when this happened?
- no changes in settings AW or iPhone ... same daily patterns, and as I recover from injury, quite same workout, 10km walk only
Can you confirm that your Data Sources are toggled off or in default priority if you only use your Apple Watch?
- only sleep Data Source have custom Priority, see attached picture
/ but this apps (sleep++,Autosleep, ...) was deleted a few months ago
no other sleep tracker app on the phone now
- off for the rest
Randell
Radim J: Thanks for sending your screenshots and answering the questions.
Can you please tap on your Sleep Data Sources and send a screenshot of that? Is there any reason why you have your Sleep Data Sources in Custom Priority? Are you able to set that into default priority as well since you are only using your Apple Watch?
Radim J
Randell
... just to be sure that AW are first source, no clue what "default" means for your app
Randell
Radim J: I see. Lets try this, Can you please go to your Bevel app -> Tap on your Profile -> Data Sources -> Sleep -> Turn off custom Priority
(See my screenshot below)
By toggling off your Custom priority, the app will go into its default setting or default priority where it will prioritize your Apple Watch. This is the best setup for users like us who are only using Apple Watch and I suggest you leave all of your settings there on default state.
Once you have done this, can you please kindly try to clear cache and reload data and see if it fixes the issue? or restart your Phone.
Radim J
Randell
ok, let's try ...
I'll update post tomorrow.
regards
RJ
Radim J
Randell
just quick update
today, Recovery, 89, 89, 63
same settings and default Data Sources
regards
RJ
Randell
Radim J: Hi, Thanks for the update. Does it stay at 63% now or it does eventually go back to 89% after you clear cache again?
Radim J
Randell
.. stay 63% even after clearing cash
Grey
Radim J: Hey Radim, I'm jumping in here for Randell to help you look into this. Next time this happens, can you screenshot this view before and after the score changes?
I want to see which of the underlying metrics are changing for you.
Radim J
Grey
Hi,
Recovery changed from 80 to 58
Resting HRV changed, why ?
Tx
RJ
Radim J
Grey
Hi,
same situation from the morning.
Recovery 53 to 42.
App change Recovery after new Resting HRV is add to Health.
Resting HRV , two entry , 58 and 60.
It should be solved if I can set which app to read and rest ignore ...
regards
RJ
Grey
Radim J: This is now possible with the new Data Sources flow.
You can go to Bevel Settings > Data Sources > HRV > Hide the data source from Athlytic and the app will not ingest that data.
Your score will not change after that. I'll close this ticket but let me know if you have any other questions.
Radim J
Grey
Hi,
just did it after update.
Now is ok.
I have to play with data sources a bit … but finaly it works !
close the case
regards
RJ
Randell
Hi Radim J, Just a few quick follow-up question regarding this issue.
- What are you using to track your Sleep/Recovery? Could you let me know if you're only using your AW?
- Did you change your HRV calculation method when this happened?
- Can you confirm that your Data Sources are toggled off or in default priority if you only use your Apple Watch?
Also, Have you tried tapping the Clear cache and reload data and see if it fixes the numbers not matching?
Radim J
Randell
pls see abow ...
Radim J
Randell
... I have all print screens .. but there is limit for attachments