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How recovery works? It's weird and inaccurate...

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Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez

Other apps show a higher recovery, while Bevel usually doesn't show me a value greater than 50%. Even Garmin gives better scores, but Bevel always shows 10 or 20%, which for the application is considered "normal".

July 8, 2024

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Randell

Hi, Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez as explained in our FAQ - It takes into account various factors such as HRV, HR, etc.
"Recovery Score is a metric that assesses how prepared your body is for the day ahead. It considers several factors like heart rate variability (HRV), resting heart rate (RHR), etc. – all monitored during sleep."
We can't say for sure with other apps how they calculate their Recovery scores but in Bevel, we are not just basing it on your Sleep as explained above.
How long have you been using Bevel? Do you currently have data of more than 60 days? If you tap the [i] Icon on your Recovery view it will explain to you about the Recovery Calibration. As shown in my screenshot.
I hope that explains it for you, I will close this ticket now. Thanks!

Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez

Randell Something is definitely wrong with their way of measuring recovery…

Randell

Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez Hi Juan, let me check this one for you.

Can you please confirm or send a screenshot of the following:

Did you wear your watch during your sleep?

Are you tracking your sleep with an Apple Watch only? Do you use any other device or app?
Can you please send me a screenshot of your Primary sleep view tab? Do you have sleep stages?

Go to Bevel -> Sleep -> Tap on Primary Sleep -> Screenshot “Sleep Contributors” and “Sleep Stages” for me

Can you please send a screenshot of what your Data Sources in sleep looks like?

You can find this on: Bevel -> Profile -> Data Sources -> Sleep. Screenshot this view for me (I want to check if your Apple Watch is the first one in the priority order source)

Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez

Randell hi!
I did wear my Apple Watch while I slept. 
I usually just use my Apple Watch Ultra 2 to follow my sleep. Last night, for the first time, I used a Whoop band. 
Yes I have stages of sleep.

Randell

Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez: I see, upon checking with your Data Sources, it seems like it Priotizes your Phone Sleep data. 
Could you please tap "Edit" and reorganize your sources and move your Apple Watch Ultra 2 (the one with the recent timestamp of 12/07/24) to be your top priority? Since this is the device you mostly wear during sleep, it should be the one at the 1st source of data.
When you mentioned that you have a Whoop Band and you used it today to track your sleep, are you able to see Whoop in your Data Sources for sleep when you scroll down?
Can you please send a screenshot of what your Recovery Trends look like after you reorganize your Sleep Data Source?
You can go to Recovery -> Scroll down to Trends and Screenshot the view for me.

Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez

Randell I reorganized the data sources, but there was no change. I can see the whoop band.

I see that there are other fields with data sources that are not my AWU2 as the first option, but I cannot reorganize those or I cannot delete the ones that no longer exist.

Grey

Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez: Hi Juan, I am jumping in for Randell here.

First, can you move all Apple Watch sources to the top of the Sleep sources list (screenshot below)?
Can you share with me a screenshot of your SpO2 in Bevel?

Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez

Grey hi! 
I already did!
I see an inconsistency in the HRV data, compared to other apps.

Grey

Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez: HRV is different because Bevel uses the RMSSD method by default. RMSSD is generally considered more accurate for Recovery tracking.

I think I know the issue here. Do you live at a high altitude? Or is there a reason why your blood oxygen saturation is so low?

Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez

Grey yes, i live in Bogotá 2.600 mts

Grey

Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez: Ok got it. I know the issue now. The algorithm is punishing you for having a lower-than-normal SpO2, but in reality, you're up at a much higher altitude than most people.

I'll get a fix out ASAP. Thanks for reporting this issue.

Grey

Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez, can you download the latest build and see if it fixes this issue for you?

Juan Sebastián Quijano Rodríguez

Grey works better!